Comments on: The Gloomy Year of O-Ten

By: Nouvelle édition du Talk Morocco | Blog d'Anas Alaoui

Nouvelle édition du Talk Morocco | Blog d'Anas Alaoui — Sat, 01 Jan 2011 22:29:13 +0000

[...] lire également, le post par Zouzou, The Gloomy Year Of O-Ten, où vous pouvez consulter les nombreux liens donnés sur le post. Ils valent le [...]

By: Syassator

Syassator — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:54:40 +0000

that’s one theory.
I came across some papers that did prove that there’s no substantial link between first generation human rights and a significant improvment of socio-economic outcomes. On the other hand, there’s strong evidence that these rights could, ceteris paribus, guarantee a stability in the socio-economic structures. I think North produced some interesting papers to study http://tinyurl.com/yzgv7td

By: fly

fly — Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:26:46 +0000

First-generation human rights deal essentially with liberty and participation in political life. They are fundamentally civil and political in nature, and serve to protect the individual from excesses of the state. First-generation rights include, among other things, freedom of speech, the right to a fair trial, freedom of religion, and voting rights. Pioneered by the United States Bill of Rights and in France by the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen in the 18th century, they were first enshrined at the global level by the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights and given status in international law in Articles 3 to 21 of the Universal Declaration, and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.

When first generation human rights are limited this directly limits second generation rights. Improving first generation rights is the “causal link from first generation human rights to improved socio-economic outcomes”.

By: Syassator

Syassator — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:38:00 +0000

@ Fly

I take your point.
Education and welfare are -in my perspective anyway- more than basic needs, just equal to citizenship and human dignity.
I would be quite interested to hear from you about what you consider to be basic rights

By: fly

fly — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:22:48 +0000

@Syassator: “But then again, even the basic rights are not granted…”

My point exactly! You can’t talk about the right to education or welfare until you sort out the most basic rights.

By: Hisham

Hisham — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:42:02 +0000

FYI fly, Syassator, also known as Zouzou, is of course the author of this essay.

By: Syassator

Syassator — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:40:18 +0000

Indeed I am not. But then again, even the basic rights are not granted…

By: fly

fly — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:06:23 +0000

“Food in their bellies, knowledge in their brains and citizenship and dignity for every Moroccan.”

I see that you’re not familiar with Vasak’s work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_generations_of_human_rights

By: The Gloomy Year of O-Ten • Talk Morocco | Headlines Today

The Gloomy Year of O-Ten • Talk Morocco | Headlines Today — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:27:26 +0000

[...] more here: The Gloomy Year of O-Ten • Talk Morocco Share and [...]