Women without educational or professional skills are alright if nothing goes amiss and their spouse can financially support them, however what if the spouse dies or the woman finds herself in a situation where she needs to be able to care for herself or be stuck in a bad situation. For many women around the world, their options are to leave a bad situation and starve or stay and deal with it because they are totally dependent on the breadwinner.

Nevertheless, even if you could make the claim that homosexual sodomy is deviant based on the definition of deviant alone, I’m not even sure that’s accurate. In a society that has for so long oppressed homosexuals (not just Morocco, but global society), do we really have a sense of just how “normal” it might be?

Anyway, I am all for women’s rights but I also think that this really needs to be a cultural shift. Employing women over men will cause problems just as it has in American society. This need for two incomes came about after “women’s liberation”. Once more and more people got used to having two incomes it became harder and harder to “survive” without it. Though of course the concept of survival changed drastically as well.

One also wonders if the guy who said he wouldn’t be hurt by two women being together is also the type of guy who enjoys watching two women together. Morality is morality.

It was a pleasure to have a long running argument with you.

I can’t convince you. You can’t convince me.
I hope we can have a thorough disagreement on another topic.

Till then, have a good week!

In this case it is!

As for rhyming proverbs, they’re just empty rhetoric. Not some sort of magic “argument”.

Which means for non-Moroccan Arabic speakers:
They who offer their asses,
let them put up with the consequences.

As for locking up gays for their own safety, it fails flat as an argument. The law presents sodomy as something perverse and the jail sentences are punishments for deviant behavior.

So, again, how does male-male sex hurt or threaten you? Do you think that you’ll start taking it up the bum if it were to be decriminalized? How can choice threaten you?

Any behaviour in private is nobody’s concern. But Morocco isn’t yet ready for open gay relationship as it is in the West, at least for the safety of gays. Do you think an openly gay couple can be safe in Morocco?

Personally, I don’t think i will get hurt when i see two women fiddling with each other’s genital. But it comes to two men, that’s very disgusting. For me it’s synonymous with cannibalism, the highest level of barbarism.

If you can tell me how two men/women fiddling with each other’s genital part hurts you, I am willing to listen.

Don’t embarrass yourself in such a way just to defend fairy tales. No sensible person would do this.

I’ll be glad if you talk to me about your own experience in being sodomised and the pleasure you get out of it and the methods you use to get away with it despite the Moroccan intransigent laws about it.

You seem to have an issue with religion and sex because you were the subject of “falaka” when a child as a way to force you to learn the Koran.

I am in Morocco, and I don’t see much sexual liberation. We’ll talk when sodomy, extra-marital sex and selling sex toys isn’t criminalized. The country has archaic laws (religiously-fuelled, of course!).

Concerning backward views I think they can be held even seemingly educated people.

Concerning the author Mama Maroc, I appreciate her views they truly depict the reality of Moroccan women which still needs improvement.

I know how pervasive his thinking is in the Moroccan society. It’s what happens in taboo cultures where an out-of-weddlock sex life is demonized and people’s most basic needs and desires are repressed.

So I’m “attacking a whole nation” for being backwards and having so much illiteracy and hocus-pocus in its midst. What’s the big deal?